{"id":35,"date":"2013-04-30T20:44:51","date_gmt":"2013-05-01T00:44:51","guid":{"rendered":"\/news_blogs\/barry\/?p=35"},"modified":"2021-10-07T12:16:07","modified_gmt":"2021-10-07T16:16:07","slug":"welcome-to-a-discussion-on-law-and-religion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cccc.org\/news_blogs\/intersection\/2013\/04\/30\/welcome-to-a-discussion-on-law-and-religion\/","title":{"rendered":"Welcome To A Discussion On Law and Religion"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: left;\" align=\"center\"><a href=\"\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/800px-Old_English_Garden_Greenbank_Park_Liverpool.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-109 aligncenter\" src=\"\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/800px-Old_English_Garden_Greenbank_Park_Liverpool-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"Old English Garden,GreenbankParkLiverpool\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\"><\/a>&nbsp;I liken the study of <strong>law and religion<\/strong> to an English garden with many paths leading to a number of \u201crooms\u201d where one may sit down and stay awhile admiring the unique characteristics of the setting.&nbsp; Each \u201croom\u201d allows for reflection on a specific characteristic of the law and religion dynamic.&nbsp; For example, there is a \u201csimilarity room.\u201d&nbsp; This similarity room enlightens us to the historical ties between the religious forms \u2013 God, role of priest, liturgy, church sanctuary \u2013 and the legal forms \u2013 judge, role of lawyers, court etiquette, courtroom \u2013 that remain with us today.<a title=\"\" href=\"#_ftn1\">[1]<\/a>&nbsp; In a future blog I will discuss those in detail.<\/p>\n<p>ROOMS OF THOUGHT ON <strong>LAW AND RELIGION<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>There are many of these \u201crooms\u201d in the garden of which I speak.&nbsp; There is a \u201chistory room,\u201d \u201ca theological room,\u201d \u201ca contemporary issues room,\u201d \u201ca political philosophy room,\u201d on and on it goes.&nbsp; As this discussion advances we can expect to find ourselves in these and other metaphorical rooms debating the wit and wisdom of sages, preachers, and scholars of today and yesterday.&nbsp; For law and religion expands into every aspect of human life.&nbsp; No matter how much we think we have entered a new room, so to speak, we will find that the room was already occupied and thought was given to its meaning for both law and religion and life on this planet.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/Hestercombegardes.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-112\" src=\"\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/Hestercombegardes-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"Hestercombegardes\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The centre of this garden where all the paths originate, sits a chair upon a flat gray stone centrepiece.&nbsp; There sits humankind.&nbsp; Men and women sit and reflect on what makes a human being flourish.&nbsp; The history of human life on this planet is a history of ideas and reflections of those who have gone before us about what makes human life flourish.&nbsp; Those ideas and reflections were manifested in their life and actions.&nbsp; As they walked from room to room they took what ideas and impressions seemed right and true in establishing a happy life.&nbsp; Each generation must reflect on what the previous one had to say about the meaning of life.&nbsp; That is our grand quest \u2013 the only quest that will assist us in the present and how we understand that quest will be further reflected and lived in the lives of those who come after us.&nbsp; \u201cAll the world&#8217;s a stage,\u201d noted Shakespeare, \u201cAnd all the men and women merely players: They have their exits and their entrances.\u201d<a title=\"\" href=\"#_ftn2\">[2]<\/a>&nbsp; The philosophers, the political leaders, the religious teachers, and the poets entered the stage and spoke what seemed right and true.&nbsp; Today we look back with derision at their backward approaches \u2013 the same may be said of us in time to come.&nbsp; The realization of the frailness of our attempt to understand the grand themes of life, which is beyond us, will be our greatest strength.<\/p>\n<p>CONSCIENCE<\/p>\n<p><strong>Law and religion<\/strong> meet at the crossroads of the <strong>human conscience<\/strong>.&nbsp; For millennia the dissonance of divided loyalties has impacted both.&nbsp; In Robert Bolt\u2019s play, \u201cA Man For All Seasons,\u201d we find an intriguing exchange between the main character Sir Thomas More and Cardinal Wolsey.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_111\" style=\"width: 266px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/Cardinal_Wolsey_Christ_Church.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-111\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-111\" src=\"\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/Cardinal_Wolsey_Christ_Church-256x300.jpg\" alt=\"Cardinal Wolsey\" width=\"256\" height=\"300\"><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-111\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Cardinal Wolsey<\/p><\/div>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">The Cardinal devised a plan to enable the English King Henry VIII to obtain a divorce \u2013 and solicited More\u2019s help.&nbsp; More was a religious man.&nbsp; He believed that the only authority for the granting of divorce was from the Roman Catholic Church.&nbsp; Since the Pope had refused Henry\u2019s request More was not going to get involved in Henry\u2019s attempt to legitimate his divorce.&nbsp; More rebuffed the Cardinal because of conscience.&nbsp; An infuriated Wolsey stated:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; You&#8217;re a constant regret to me, Thomas.&nbsp; If you could just see facts flat on, without&nbsp;that<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; horrible moral squint; with just a little common sense, you could have been a statesman.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_107\" style=\"width: 247px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/474px-Sir_Thomas_More_by_Hans_Holbein_the_Younger.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-107\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-107\" src=\"\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/474px-Sir_Thomas_More_by_Hans_Holbein_the_Younger-237x300.jpg\" alt=\"Sir Thomas More\" width=\"237\" height=\"300\"><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-107\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sir Thomas More<\/p><\/div>\n<p>More was eventually beheaded for his refusal to violate his religious convictions.&nbsp; The annals of Western history are replete with such dramatic examples \u2013 we think of the Protestant, Roman Catholic, and Jewish stories of people who defied the law because of their <strong>religious belief<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_105\" style=\"width: 207px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/395px-Muslim_woman_in_Yemen.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-105\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-105\" src=\"\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/395px-Muslim_woman_in_Yemen-197x300.jpg\" alt=\"395px-Muslim_woman_in_Yemen\" width=\"197\" height=\"300\"><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-105\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Niqab<\/p><\/div>\n<p>REMOVE THE NIQAB IN COURT?<\/p>\n<p>The struggle between law and religion continues to this day.&nbsp; Consider the recent case of N.S. who is a Muslim living in Canada.&nbsp; She is a key witness in a sexual assault trial.&nbsp; N.S. accuses two of her relatives of sexually abusing her as a young child.&nbsp; She will only testify with her face covered by a niqab \u2013 a veil covering all of the face except for the eyes.&nbsp; The accused men demand that N.S. remove the niqab so that they may cross examine her, otherwise, they claim, the trial will be unfair. &nbsp;She maintains that to be forced to remove it will violate her religious freedom.<a title=\"\" href=\"#_ftn3\">[3]<\/a><\/p>\n<p>DOES RELIGION MERIT SPECIAL PROTECTION IN THE LAW?<\/p>\n<p>I find the study of law and religion captivating.&nbsp; By joining me on a voyage of discovery traversing the intersection of law and religion in society perhaps you too will find it fascinating.&nbsp; I am starting this journey by asking the question, \u201cDoes religion merit special protection of the law?\u201d&nbsp; Whatever our perspective of what <i>ought<\/i> to be the answer to that question the reality is the law does give religion special treatment.<\/p>\n<p>The <strong><i>Charter<\/i><\/strong><a title=\"\" href=\"#_ftn4\">[4]<\/a><i> <\/i>protects <strong>freedom of religion<\/strong>.&nbsp; \u201c[O]nly beliefs, convictions and practices rooted in religion, as opposed to those that are secular, socially based or conscientiously held\u201d are protected under the <i>Charter\u2019s<\/i> freedom of religion.<a title=\"\" href=\"#_ftn5\">[5]<\/a>&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; What is it about that category of beliefs and practises falling under the rubric \u201creligion\u201d that justified differential treatment from the \u201cnon-religious\u201d beliefs and practises?<\/p>\n<p>Why, for example, should the law require workplace accommodation of holy day observance,<a title=\"\" href=\"#_ftn6\"><sup><sup>[6]<\/sup><\/sup><\/a> where a day off for religious practise is protected but a day off to attend a political rally would not be; also consider religious garb in school where wearing a ceremonial dagger or knife in accordance with religious belief is protected<a title=\"\" href=\"#_ftn7\"><sup><sup>[7]<\/sup><\/sup><\/a> but wearing a knife in school for other reasons would not be tolerated.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Is it defensible for a modern liberal democratic society, such as Canada, to continue treating freedom of religion as being unique?&nbsp; Or,<\/li>\n<li>Can religion\u2019s protection be adequately addressed by more general protections of other rights such as equality or speech?<\/li>\n<li>Is religion\u2019s protection an anachronism \u2013 a quirk of history that is no longer applicable in our multi-cultural society?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>These are among the questions this blog will address as I investigate the rationale for extending specific rights-based protection to religion.<\/p>\n<div>\n<hr align=\"left\" size=\"1\" width=\"33%\">\n<div>\n<p><a title=\"\" href=\"#_ftnref1\">[1]<\/a> Richard K. Fenn, Liturgies and Trials:&nbsp; The Secularization of Religious Language (New York: The Pilgrim Press, 1982); James Q. Whitman, The Origins of Reasonable Doubt:&nbsp; Theological Roots of The Criminal Trial (New Haven:&nbsp; Yale University Press, 2008), John Witte, Jr., God\u2019s Joust, God\u2019s Justice:&nbsp; Law and Religion in the Western Tradition (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 2006)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p><a title=\"\" href=\"#_ftnref2\">[2]<\/a> William Shakespeare, <i>As You Like It, <\/i>Jaques in Act II Scene VII.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p><a title=\"\" href=\"#_ftnref3\">[3]<\/a> http:\/\/scc.lexum.org\/decisia-scc-csc\/scc-csc\/scc-csc\/en\/item\/12779\/index.do?r=AAAAAQACTlMAAAAAAAAB<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p><a title=\"\" href=\"#_ftnref4\">[4]<\/a> <i>Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms<\/i>, Part I of The Constitution Act, 1982, enacted as Schedule B to the Canada Act 1982, (U.K.) 1982, c. 11, which came into force on April 17, 1982.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p><a title=\"\" href=\"#_ftnref5\">[5]<\/a> Syndicat Northcrest v. 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