{"id":28819,"date":"2020-03-14T14:59:07","date_gmt":"2020-03-14T18:59:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/?p=28819"},"modified":"2021-10-04T12:26:14","modified_gmt":"2021-10-04T16:26:14","slug":"conversion-therapy-bill-c-8","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cccc.org\/news_blogs\/intersection\/2020\/03\/14\/conversion-therapy-bill-c-8\/","title":{"rendered":"Conversion Therapy Bill C-8"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"pps-series-post-details pps-series-post-details-variant-classic pps-series-post-details-38706\" data-series-id=\"433\"><div class=\"pps-series-meta-content\"><div class=\"pps-series-meta-text\">This entry is part 3 of 3 in the series <a href=\"https:\/\/cccc.org\/news_blogs\/series\/conversion-therapy\/\">Conversion Therapy<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<p><em>The falling dominoes: why changing the criminal code may have unintended effects<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>On March 9, 2020, the federal government tabled Bill C-8 in Parliament, to criminalize \u201cconversion therapy.\u201d Rather than focusing on discredited and coercive practices, the current legislation expands the concept of conversion therapy to include any \u201cpractice, treatment or service designed to change a person\u2019s sexual orientation to heterosexual or gender identity to cisgender, or to repress or reduce non-heterosexual attraction or sexual behaviour.\u201d The definition excludes \u201ca practice, treatment or service that relates (a) to a person\u2019s gender transition; or (b) to a person\u2019s exploration of their identity or to its development.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Bill creates five offences:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>causing a minor to\nundergo conversion therapy<\/li><li>removing a minor\nfrom Canada to undergo conversion therapy abroad<\/li><li>causing a person\nto undergo conversion therapy against their will <\/li><li>profiting from providing\nconversion therapy <\/li><li>advertising an\noffer to provide conversion therapy <\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>It also allows wiretapping and the seizure of written and other materials advertising conversion therapy. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Given the lack of exemptions\nor clarification in the bill, it would seem that the proposed legislation has troubling\nimplications for religious communities, families, or individuals who affirm\ntraditional sexual ethics. As Minister\nLametti stated, \u201cConversion therapy is premised on a lie. That being homosexual,\nlesbian, bisexual or trans is wrong and in need of fixing. Not only is that\nfalse, it sends a demeaning and a degrading message that undermines the dignity\nof individuals and the LGBTQ community as a whole. Contrary to what some might\nsay there is no right or wrong when it comes to who you are or who you love.\u201d <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>At very least, this position has the potential to impose a \u201cchilling effect\u201d as religious adherents may fear reprisal for expressing their faith, even within a family or church setting. Minister Lametti\u2019s verbal assurance that Bill C-8 is not meant to penalize private, \u201copen-ended and exploratory\u201d conversations offers little comfort. What exactly are private, open-ended conversations? If there is to be any protection for parents, teachers, or religious leaders, it must be clearly outlined in the bill. After all, the courts pay attention to the specific language of the legislation, not the words of the justice minister. Minister Lametti also noted that \u201c[w]hat is covered by this legislation are practices that attempt to change one\u2019s orientation towards a predefined goal.\u201d The reality is that most religious communities do have a \u201cpredefined goal\u201d for living based on their scriptures. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Lametti\u2019s statement that\nconversion therapy (as broadly defined) \u201csends a demeaning and a degrading\nmessage\u201d is reminiscent of the Supreme Court of Canada\u2019s (SCC) criticism of\nTrinity Western University (TWU) when it said that being \u201crequired by someone\nelse\u2019s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one\u2019s sexual identity is\ndegrading and disrespectful\u201d (at para 101). The SCC conveniently failed to\nacknowledge that TWU is a voluntary institution \u2013 no one is \u201crequired\u201d to\nattend. Similarly, Bill C-8 fails to respect the autonomy of individuals \u2013\nparticularly mature minors or parents \u2013 who voluntarily wish to order their\nsexual lives and expression in accordance with their faith.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Both Lametti and the SCC seem to\nagree that religious communities should no longer be permitted to practice\ntheir religion if or when it conflicts with current sexual norms. Many applaud\nthis development in the law. But are we sure we fully understand what all of\nthis means?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We can only grieve in sympathy\nwith the individuals who gave their personal testimonies at the government news\nconference in support of Bill C-8. Similarly moving are the op-eds and memoirs published\nby individuals who describe the pain they suffered at the hands of religious communities\nthat tried to \u201cfix\u201d their orientation or gender identity. Those harms are real\nand should be acknowledged as such.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yet, conspicuously missing from\nthe recent news conference and the proposed legislation is any balancing of the\nrights of others who are also involved and affected by this discussion. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>First,<\/em> what measures should or will be taken to safeguard the rights of minors who may not be equipped to make permanent, life-altering decisions? While some youth may, indeed, find fulfillment in transitioning with the help of hormonal treatments and surgery, there are numerous reports of individuals who underwent gender transition as a minor but later regretted their decision; as adults, they question why their parents, physicians, and therapists did not push back against what they now call their teenage \u201cfantasy.\u201d See, for example, the story of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.com\/news\/health-51676020\">Keira Bell<\/a>, from the UK, who is suing the clinic that performed her gender reassignment surgery when she was a minor. As currently drafted in Bill C-8, any alternatives to transitioning would be deemed criminal, thereby infringing on the rights of individuals to receive the treatment they desire or need, as well as unduly limiting the discretion of medical practitioners to provide the appropriate emotional, mental, or physical care.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Second,<\/em> what of the rights of parents to raise their children in accordance with their religion? Must parents only have \u201copen-ended\u201d discussions about sex, sexual orientation, and gender identity? This seems to be a serious intrusion into the relationship between parent and child. As Justice Peter Lauwers observed in the recent <em>E.T. v. Hamilton-Wentworth<\/em> case of the Ontario Court of Appeal, \u201cthe right of parents to care for their children and make decisions for their well-being, including decisions about education, is primary, and the state\u2019s authority is secondary to that parental right\u201d (at para 65).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Third,<\/em> what of the rights of others, such as spiritual leaders? This new legislation allows for the government to obtain warrants to seize digital communication between parents, pastors and others to ensure that no form of \u201cconversion\u201d therapy is being advertised or implemented. The <em>Charter<\/em> concerns around that issue alone should keep many lawyers and courts occupied for many years to come.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Fourth,<\/em> what about physicians (particularly psychiatrists) and psychologists who will be restricted in their ability to treat a patient in the patient\u2019s best interests? For instance, coexisting medical or mental health conditions could remain unaddressed once a patient articulates gender dysphoria, because the professional is constrained to respond in only one manner. Further, the Bill raises concerns for medical practitioners who may feel tension reconciling the legislation with their conscientious beliefs.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Fifth, <\/em>what about religious communities that hold Biblical beliefs on sexual orientation and gender identity? Will they suffer criminal prosecution because they teach these topics in youth group or Sabbath School? Will there be wiretaps on church leaders to ensure that they are not engaged in criminal activity when they preach on passages of the Bible that feature \u201cheteronormative pressures\u201d like the wedding where Christ turned water into wine? If this seems farfetched, then the government would do well to provide clarification to ensure that no such confusion or uncertainty exists. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Sadly, it is becoming evident\nthat the criminalization proposed by Bill C-8 is not the end goal pursued by\nactivists. A <a href=\"https:\/\/www.msn.com\/en-ca\/lifestyle\/smart-living\/how-i-ended-up-in-conversion-therapy-and-why-canada-s-proposed-ban-is-just-a-start\/ar-BB1108cr?ocid=msedgntp\">recent op-ed<\/a> by a\nself-described \u201csurvivor\u201d of conversion therapy argues not only for changing\nthe criminal code, but for \u201ceducation efforts to <em>change <\/em>the structures\nand social attitudes\u201d that, in his view, contribute to the practice (emphasis\nadded). <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In other words, the goal appears\nto be to force religious groups to convert to the dominant ethos when it comes\nto sexual ethics. If they do not conform, they will face the possibility of increasingly\nsevere repercussions, from jail time as per this Bill to a loss of charitable\nstatus as per legal advocates in the TWU case. Once this logic is applied to\ngroups, the <a href=\"https:\/\/scc-csc.lexum.com\/scc-csc\/scc-csc\/en\/item\/1867\/index.do\">SCC warned<\/a> in 2001, it can\nall too easily be extended to individuals, who may likewise be denied licensing\nor employment simply because they hold traditional, religious views. The result\nwould be to impoverish and undermine the true diversity of our society. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In light of these\ndevelopments, how should we respond? In a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/barry\/2020\/02\/10\/the-controversy-over-conversion-therapy\/\">previous\nblog post<\/a>, I made some practical recommendations for churches and charities.\nAs the situation continues to unfold, it\u2019s also worth recognizing that many of\nthe individuals who have campaigned against conversion therapy are motivated by\na tragic history of pain and despair. Only the Lord can bring healing out of\nsuch sorrow (1 Corinthians 7:10). Those of us in Christian ministries should,\nas always, ensure that our actions and attitudes on this topic are\ncharacterized by grace, sensitivity and love. We must remain faithful in\nteaching and obeying God\u2019s Word, while living in such a way that we \u201cmake the\nteaching about God our Saviour attractive\u201d (Titus 2:10). Finally, we can be\nsecure knowing that our unchanging, eternal God remains sovereign no matter\nwhat the future holds! &nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div class=\"pps-series-post-details pps-series-post-details-variant-classic pps-series-post-details-38706 pps-series-meta-excerpt\" data-series-id=\"433\"><div class=\"pps-series-meta-content\"><div class=\"pps-series-meta-text\">This entry is part 3 of 3 in the series <a href=\"https:\/\/cccc.org\/news_blogs\/series\/conversion-therapy\/\">Conversion Therapy<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><p>The falling dominoes: why changing the criminal code may have unintended effects On March 9, 2020, the federal government tabled Bill C-8 in Parliament, to criminalize \u201cconversion therapy.\u201d Rather than focusing on discredited and coercive practices, the current legislation expands the concept of conversion therapy to include any \u201cpractice, treatment&#8230; <a href=\"https:\/\/cccc.org\/news_blogs\/intersection\/2020\/03\/14\/conversion-therapy-bill-c-8\/\" class=\"linkbutton\">More<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":8,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ts_fic_featured_image_caption":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[137],"tags":[],"series":[433],"class_list":["post-28819","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","series-conversion-therapy"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.3 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Conversion Therapy Bill C-8 - CCCC Blogs<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/intersection\/2020\/03\/14\/conversion-therapy-bill-c-8\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Conversion Therapy Bill C-8 - CCCC Blogs\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"The falling dominoes: why changing the criminal code may have unintended effects On March 9, 2020, the federal government tabled Bill C-8 in Parliament, to criminalize \u201cconversion therapy.\u201d Rather than focusing on discredited and coercive practices, the current legislation expands the concept of conversion therapy to include any \u201cpractice, treatment... 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