{"id":25140,"date":"2017-04-13T17:39:25","date_gmt":"2017-04-13T21:39:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/?p=25140"},"modified":"2021-10-07T11:05:33","modified_gmt":"2021-10-07T15:05:33","slug":"supreme-court-of-canada-decides-to-hear-the-wall-case-is-a-church-member-entitled-to-sue-a-congregation-because-he-was-disfellowshipped","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cccc.org\/news_blogs\/intersection\/2017\/04\/13\/supreme-court-of-canada-decides-to-hear-the-wall-case-is-a-church-member-entitled-to-sue-a-congregation-because-he-was-disfellowshipped\/","title":{"rendered":"Supreme Court of Canada Decides to Hear The Wall Case:  Is A Church Member Entitled To Sue A Congregation Because He Was Disfellowshipped?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"pps-series-post-details pps-series-post-details-variant-classic pps-series-post-details-38706\" data-series-id=\"347\"><div class=\"pps-series-meta-content\"><div class=\"pps-series-meta-text\">This entry is part 2 of 8 in the series <a href=\"https:\/\/cccc.org\/news_blogs\/series\/wall-v-jws\/\">Wall v. JWs<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-23805\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/IMG_1808-300x200.jpg?resize=300%2C200&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/IMG_1808.jpg?resize=300%2C200&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/IMG_1808.jpg?resize=768%2C512&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/IMG_1808.jpg?resize=1024%2C683&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/IMG_1808.jpg?w=1250&amp;ssl=1 1250w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/IMG_1808.jpg?w=1875&amp;ssl=1 1875w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The Supreme Court of Canada (SCC) decided today to hear the Wall case from Alberta.&nbsp; The SCC must decide if a court has jurisdiction to hear a case of a former church member who is suing for damages because he lost his membership due to church discipline.&nbsp; Here is a short synopsis of the case:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.canlii.org\/en\/ab\/abca\/doc\/2016\/2016abca255\/2016abca255.html\">Wall v. Judicial Committee of the Highwood Congregation of Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses, 2016 ABCA 255 (37273) <\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Mr. Wall was a member of the Highwood Congregation of Jehovah\u2019s Witnesses, an unincorporated religious association. He was disfellowshipped by a Judicial Committee of elders because he was not sufficiently repentant for two incidents of drunkenness, one of which included verbal abuse of his wife, and was shunned. He was a real estate agent and lost congregation members and other Jehovah\u2019s Witnesses as clients. He appealed to an Appeal Committee which upheld the disfellowship decision. The Watch Tower and Bible Tract Society of Canada decided not to overturn the decision. Mr. Wall applied for judicial review of the religious decision. Wilson J. conducted a hearing to determine whether the Court of Queen\u2019s Bench of Alberta had jurisdiction to hear the application. Court of Queen\u2019s Bench of Alberta: declaration that Court of Queen\u2019s Bench of Alberta has jurisdiction to hear application for judicial review of religious decision. C.A.: appeal dismissed. &#8220;The application for leave to appeal&#8230;is granted with costs in the cause.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The Alberta Court of Appeal (ABCA) decision raises a number of questions that have to be resolved.&nbsp; Generally speaking, courts have been loath to get involved in church disputes.&nbsp; Courts have no expertise in dealing with theological matters that are often the underlying cause of why members of a church are asked (or told) to leave. Imagine a court discussing topics like the proper understanding of the doctrine of the Trinity, or the process of salvation. Such matters were not part of the law school curriculum. The point is a court is incompetent in dealing with religious disputes.<\/p>\n<p>The majority of the ABCA decided that the courts have jurisdiction over procedural matters. In law we call it issues of \u201cnatural justice.\u201d That is to say, the law protects people in organizations to the extent that the organization&#8217;s own internal rules of procedure were properly followed. There is a reasonable argument to be made for that position. However, a church is not a public body that should be subject to judicial review.<\/p>\n<p>Further, the ABCA was of the view that a church could be sued for economic loss of a member being expelled. This is new ground for Canadian law \u2013 new ground for any law of a western democracy.&nbsp; Membership in a religious community is voluntary. No one is forced to stay. If a person is no longer willing to abide by the teachings then they are free to go and make their way elsewhere. If that person limited his business to only those within the church community and subsequently finds that none of his former religionists will do business with him that is not the congregation\u2019s responsibility.&nbsp; He took that risk himself when he so limited his business.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-23180\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/IMG_1125-300x200.jpg?resize=300%2C200&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/IMG_1125.jpg?resize=300%2C200&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/IMG_1125.jpg?resize=768%2C512&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/IMG_1125.jpg?resize=1024%2C683&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/IMG_1125.jpg?w=1250&amp;ssl=1 1250w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/IMG_1125.jpg?w=1875&amp;ssl=1 1875w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Religious communities have been immune from litigation of former members who were asked to leave. Membership in a religious community is privilege not a right. Allowing courts jurisdiction to hear judicial review applications of such matters is to entangle the court unnecessarily in the internal affairs of religion. If a court is granted the right to hear such a review it is then able to grant orders of relief against the religious community for making religious decisions about membership. The law has no business there.<\/p>\n<p>It is a good thing that the SCC decided to hear the case. Obviously, our highest Court understands the intricate issues that are in play in this case.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div class=\"pps-series-post-details pps-series-post-details-variant-classic pps-series-post-details-38706 pps-series-meta-excerpt\" data-series-id=\"347\"><div class=\"pps-series-meta-content\"><div class=\"pps-series-meta-text\">This entry is part 2 of 8 in the series <a href=\"https:\/\/cccc.org\/news_blogs\/series\/wall-v-jws\/\">Wall v. JWs<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><p>The Supreme Court of Canada (SCC) decided today to hear the Wall case from Alberta.  The SCC must decide if a court has jurisdiction to hear a case of a former church member who is suing for damages because he lost his membership due to church discipline.  Here is a&#8230; <a href=\"https:\/\/cccc.org\/news_blogs\/intersection\/2017\/04\/13\/supreme-court-of-canada-decides-to-hear-the-wall-case-is-a-church-member-entitled-to-sue-a-congregation-because-he-was-disfellowshipped\/\" class=\"linkbutton\">More<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":8,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ts_fic_featured_image_caption":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[137],"tags":[138,141],"series":[347],"class_list":["post-25140","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-law-and-religion","tag-religious-freedom","series-wall-v-jws"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Supreme Court of Canada Decides to Hear The Wall Case: Is A Church Member Entitled To Sue A Congregation Because He Was Disfellowshipped? - CCCC Blogs<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/cccc.org\/news_blogs\/intersection\/2017\/04\/13\/supreme-court-of-canada-decides-to-hear-the-wall-case-is-a-church-member-entitled-to-sue-a-congregation-because-he-was-disfellowshipped\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Supreme Court of Canada Decides to Hear The Wall Case: Is A Church Member Entitled To Sue A Congregation Because He Was Disfellowshipped? - CCCC Blogs\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"The Supreme Court of Canada (SCC) decided today to hear the Wall case from Alberta.&nbsp; The SCC must decide if a court has jurisdiction to hear a case of a former church member who is suing for damages because he lost his membership due to church discipline.&nbsp; Here is a... 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